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Offline pint

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Low Salt diet
« on: Aug 29 2010, 07:57 PM »
I am sure its been discussed many times before but I wanted to give my tuppence worth!!

I have had low salt diet many times over the past years suffering with MD.  it has never worked!!.

Between operations, I saw a consultant audiologist who advised a low salt diet again.  I said it has never helped, but she insisted and gave me a list of things to avoid which was more definitive than I have had previously.

For a few weeks now we have cut out salt almost completely - to the extreme of baking our own bread (one slice of bread is 7% daily allowance for normal diet!!) and making our own pasta.  Its very bland!!

However, I have stabilised a bit.  I still feel dizzy but it seems to have levelled out to the same dizziness every day rather than fluctuating.  I am able to get around the house (a bit wobbly) but it is no worse if I go into previously TERRIBLE environments like shops or fairly crowded streets.  I even made it to a wedding reception which was poorly lit and very crowded and loud, with no deterioration.

So its a bit strange - I dont really feel better but I do feel more stable, and more at ease to do things.

This is ontop of starting a a reduced fluid (1 1/2 litres of fluid a day) intake  along with starting a diuretic (2.5mg bendroflumethazide).  Also, I am out "excercising" for an hour twice a day (walking, or even cycling if I can manage it - both things that I have not done independently for some time!!).


If it helped me a bit, it might help someone else.  I cant drive or do what others can, but I feel like this little stabilising has offered me a handle back on things - if only temporarily!!

Hope this helps.


Offline shell

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #1 on: Aug 30 2010, 07:14 PM »
could you put the list of what to avoid on here please.

Offline pint

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #2 on: Sep 05 2010, 03:19 PM »
sure!
I imagine thereis loadsmore info available but heres what I am avoiding...

Bread (shop bought is 7% daily allowance for NORMAL diet per slice!!!) -making our own with no salt
seafood
sauces (make everything from scratch)
salt (obviously)
cheese or things containing cheese
salty meats (no bacon, pork, beef, corned beef etc)

basically making everything ourselves from scratch - everything is bland and harder work cant use tins, premade sauces, no takeaways - cant buy any shop bought sandwiches, nothing from the deli (except chicken or turkey slices).


It is still helping - a few weeks in now.  I am cycling each day!!! Still feel muggy all the time, but am able to function better (if only a bit) This is giving me lots more meaningful activity and independence --good luck!!

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #3 on: Nov 07 2010, 04:38 PM »
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/landingpages/healthy-shopping.aspx

I used this link to check on salt levels which was very useful. As my husband is the shopper (I've always hated supermarkets) I print off the pictures of what i want. Some of Sainsbury's own brands have distinctly lower salt values than the big brands so it's worth investigating. I've got my salt intake to 4g daily but I'm a faddy eater so I've only really given up corned beef sandwiches and swapped gravy for ketchup as a big dollop is less salt than gravy. I've swapped chocolate digestives for Cadbury's Bournville in small amounts and banana sandwiches every day for lunch. It's worth checking the labels on all breads as some of the fruit breads are distinctly lower in salt than ordinary bread. My consultant was pleased with my eating plan and it appears to have made a slight improvement but then it's only been 4 weeks. Try swapping cheese with unsalted butter - it's almost as good. Wetherspoon's give out nutritional info and there are a few dishes with low salt levels - veggie bangers and mash is a good one.

Good luck Sheelagh

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #4 on: Mar 20 2012, 03:18 PM »
I was sceptical about the low salt diet having an impact so I started and stopped a few times with little result. I read that the key to success is:
  • you have to be on it for at least 3 months
  • you have to go pretty low 1-2g per day
Although I have daily unsteadiness and wooziness I am in full-time work again and haven't had a proper vertigo attack or 'drop' attack for 5 months.
It does take longer to shop for and prepare food but it's definitely not bland! After a while your sense of taste does adjust to lower salt - even if I was cured tomorrow (!) I wouldn't go back to eating a higher salt diet - think of the good its also doing your kidneys, blood pressure, etc.
Probably been said many times before on this website but for a beginner my tips would be:
  • shop somewhere they use a traffic light system of food labelling (curse you, Tesco), it's quicker to scan the shelves for low salt items
  • beware 'reduced' salt claims, this does not necessarily mean low salt
adding lemon juice with black pepper is a kind of salt substitute - it gives you the sharpness that is lacking without salt.
cook food with big flavours - thai, indian, etc - adding plenty of herbs and spices helps.
shop for specialist items in health food shops or online e.g. kallo very low salt stock cubes.
cook as much as you can from scratch, if you cannot bear leaving salt out altogether e.g. when baking bread, use a low sodium substitute e.g. Lo-salt
avoid anything that has been cured, smoked, preserved in brine, or been pickled
when eating out, phone ahead and warn the restaurant - most will prepare a low salt dish specially (not Jamie's Italian!)
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Hope this helps someone else - it took me months to find themout for myself! :)

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #5 on: Mar 24 2012, 06:57 PM »
May be you all know about this, but I found some no-salt chapatis today in my local branch of Londis (1.29 for a pack of 5) by a company called Sounas. I have found it very difficult to get low salt bread products, so sometimes make my own, but this will be handy for snacks (they are long life & can also be frozen).

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #6 on: Mar 25 2012, 12:09 AM »
Waitrose Singapore Noodles 0.15g sodium per half pack - really yummy, and not too sinful, I thought.

Oh, and as someone who has always adored cheese, I found it helped to read that cheese soaks for something like a year in brine - really quite off-putting.  I visualize that when I fancy some.

Jeannette

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #7 on: Mar 25 2012, 09:31 AM »
Re cheese : best I have found is all brands of Emmenthal - some as low as .19 per 30gs , compared to .6 for cheddar.Its a mellow cheese but quite nice in an omelette as well as sandwich with a tiny bit of pickle!
I also use parmesan a fair bit, although its high in salt, you only need a very small amount for a lot of flavour
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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #8 on: Mar 25 2012, 12:12 PM »
Chrissie, are you talking sodium or salt?  Prob salt, but just checking.  Jeannette xx

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« Reply #9 on: Mar 25 2012, 12:21 PM »
Its the salt amount Jeanette, I always use that to calculate and keep to under 2.5 a day unless a special occasion when I live recklessly up to 4 gs!!
Chrissieg

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #10 on: Mar 25 2012, 10:14 PM »
You're so good!  An example to us all (good to know you're reckless sometimes!) xx Jeannette ;)

Offline Angel_UK1

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #11 on: Jan 29 2013, 10:19 AM »
I have cut out most things that contain salt and yet I still feel cotton woolly like I am not really here. I also find that almost everything contains salt so its really hard. I also cannot eat fatty or spicy foods due to having gerd and silent reflux I am starving most of the time as its so hard to find anything I can eat. Even ready brek contains salt, and brown sauce cheese is a no no as dairy products are a no no due to IBS. Would love to find one list where it says quite clearly yes you can eat this no you cannot eat that :-\

I find I very rarely alter my diet, I usually have 2 spoons of ready brek for breakfast, halve a apple and half a banana mid morning, usually scrambled egg for lunch with wholemeal bread, we have just bought a bread maker so gonna try that today. I have 2 plain digestives to take tablets with at 2pm and then tea is usually potatoes chicken sprouts peas and gravy and 2 slices of wholemeal bread for supper, it sucks. And all around me are people eating cakes and crisps etc, it is very hard to not give into temptation sometimes,lol.

So thank you for this thread as it contains some useful stuff ;D

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #12 on: Jan 29 2013, 12:34 PM »
Hello Chrissie

I remember you are a veggie like me.  Have you found a veggie Parmesan that you use?.  Apparently all Parmesan cheese is not veggie.  From what I have found out there has never been one that is veggie.  Could you please give me the name of the one you have.

Also there is no such veggie Emmenthal cheese because this cheese has to have rennet in it to make it what is is, if you know what I mean.

I normally try and stick to mild chedder.There are a lot of lovely cheeses out there but they are either not veggie or high in salt.

Just wondered what brand/name of cheese you have.

Thanks Jojox

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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #13 on: Jan 29 2013, 04:46 PM »
Hi Jojo

The rennet issue is a difficult one. I have found Parmesan by a company called Grande Cheese Company which is veggie and available in our whole food co-operative. The hospital consultant urged me in very strong terms to give up being veggie as he felt my diet would be too restrictive with low salt as well and therefore I would give up trying. But, it wasnt something I was prepared to do and quite honestly, I dont think I could even bear to put some meat in my mouth now after 40 odd years. However, I am probably not as strict as I should be in so far as I will wear leather etc and have not been too fussy about the cheese/rennet issue  just in order to make life easier for both myself and the rest of the family..hence why I used Emmenthal -  I have gained a low salt cheese but at the expense of some principles! My partner has been an insulin dependent diabetic since childhood. so you can imagine that shopping and cooking is already pretty complicated in our home!
I often have discussions/arguments with my very strong minded niece about issues like this but I always say that we have to find our own lines and the reasons for them eg some "veggies" eat fish. In my case, I do not object to the killing of animals for food purposes but do object to the misery inflicted during their lives  , their  unnatural  existence and the rubbish they are pumped full of .
I'll let you know if I find any more veggie low salt options. One that springs to mind is by Meridian and is a no salt yeast extract/Marmite and it tastes fine! I celebrated the day I discovered that one!
For a convenience meal- M and S Count on Us veggie lasagne is also filling and pretty low salt with just a salad or vegetables.
Chrissie
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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #14 on: Jan 29 2013, 07:16 PM »
Hello Chrissie

Thanks for the info.  It can be a bit of a mine field when it comes to veggie foods.  We never eat prepacked ready made foods ever as we make all our own.  Just think they taste nicer!!!!

Sodium wise I was told to restrict/lower my sodium intake by my ent consultant  I did not take the restrict/lower my salt advise because without ent consultants knowing what your salt intake is in the first place I feel we should not just be told to do this as this could be potentially dangerous.

As I do not eat many processed foods and also do not add salt to my meals before or after cooking my salt intake is low anyway.  If I were to lower the amount of salt I was having my sodium levels in my body would or could get too low.  So for that reason I have kept to the same amount as before.

Cheese is a difficult one veggie wise I agree with you.  But for me mild cheese just about does the job.  Does not taste as nice but still OK as cheese. I really would miss a toasted cheese sarnie!!!!

Would like more info on the marmite alternative please.  That one sounds interesting I have to say.

I too have been a veggie for a long time now over 30 years and have no intention of eating meat or fish.  I always say that I never eat anything that had a face on it!!!!!!

Take care thanks

Jojox

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« Reply #15 on: Jan 29 2013, 07:29 PM »
I truly thought I already had a very low salt diet having rarely ate processed food, always used unsalted butter and never adding it to cooking or on the table- my mother didnt either so I never acquired a taste for it. I was very shocked one day at work when a colleague toasted bread and shook salt all over the toast I remember! But I was still having way too much for the regime when I totted it up just through bread, eggs , cheese etc So I have deliberately cut down and try to stay under 2.5 gs a day . I have relaxed that a little recently when I go out to eat with no terrible consequences. I am currently well but wouldnt like to state that is the low salt which is achieving that, who knows, but I do think it is helping towards a better "balance".
I have tried a few salt free spreads and this Marmite one definately tastes the best - its just called Meridian Yeast Extract with no added salt .  Its good for stew flavouring too and has those B vitamins we need.
If you want some and struggle to get it, i could always post you a bottle!
Chrissie
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Re: Low Salt diet
« Reply #16 on: Jan 29 2013, 09:45 PM »
Hello Chrissie

Thanks for your reply.  I have made a note of the name of the marmite you have kindly given me. 

The only processed foods I actually eat is veggie sausages, but only 2 per meal. Or quorn escalopes. Only because I have found I can not make these myself (YET ha! ha! ha!)  Other than that all the rest is homemade (thankfully) without salt.  We even make our own tomato ketchup from our home grown tomatoes. (that's only if the tomatoes that we are growing do not get tomato blight like they did last year). All sauces are also homemade for things like spaghetti bolognaise and lasagne. We also make our own chutney and we put about a quarter of the recommended amount of salt in that.

As you say it can be difficult being a veggie and also being told to restrict salt. Thankfully I love veg and salads so often fill myself with these. You can not beat a huge salad!!!!!! Also have had disasters making mayonnaise so have been trying to master that one for years, mine is always too oily for me.

We would not be able to make all the things we eat if my husband hated cooking. The fact that we both love cooking is great although I am restricted in what I do I still like to take an active part as I feel more useful.  Homemade is lovely and tasty but not for everybody as it can be rather time consuming.  We make homemades in batches and then freeze it, that way there is always something nice to eat. That's the idea anyway!!!

take care  Thanks again

Jojox